Chalker Continental Composites

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PeteD
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Re: The Chalker Continental series

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dchalker wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 9:59 am What software were you using for the previous set, showing distortion?
I used d3 for all of these, specifically a d3 starter package that Tobias sent me, along with some instructions, back in 2020. If you like (and if it's OK with you, Tobias), I could forward it to you.
dchalker wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 9:59 am I've got a giant series of maps here that do not all need my name on them individually. Which one should I feature as the Denner Continental World Map?
None of them. There are no new projections here - only existing projections, sometimes stretched, sometimes compressed, sometimes spliced together.
dchalker
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Re: The Chalker Continental series

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PeteD wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 2:14 pm None of them. There are no new projections here - only existing projections, sometimes stretched, sometimes compressed, sometimes spliced together.
Correct. I am not claiming they are "projections" or naming projections. They are Continental World Maps. In the paper I'm using the term "Composite Map Configurations." Only making aesthetic claims and exploring applications. I claim to be presenting "a heretofore uncharacterized class" with "aesthetic properties convenient for artistic and educational applications". There is no existing series of defined Continental world maps. But I certainly respect any professional aversion to that! Email is same as this username at proton dot me. Thanks!
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Atarimaster
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Re: The Chalker Continental series

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PeteD wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 2:14 pm I used d3 for all of these, specifically a d3 starter package that Tobias sent me, along with some instructions, back in 2020. If you like (and if it's OK with you, Tobias), I could forward it to you.
Of course it’s okay with me. :)
PeteD
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Re: The Chalker Continental series

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dchalker wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 2:24 pm
PeteD wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 2:14 pm None of them. There are no new projections here - only existing projections, sometimes stretched, sometimes compressed, sometimes spliced together.
Correct. I am not claiming they are "projections" or naming projections. They are Continental World Maps.
Sorry, I misread what you'd written. These images barely constitute maps, though. When I hear the term "world map", especially if the map, rather than the projection, is significant enough to be named, I expect more detail than just the outline of the continents, something more like this:
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PeteD
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Re: The Chalker Continental series

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Atarimaster wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 3:10 pm Of course it’s okay with me. :)
In that case, I'll forward Tobias's 2020 email with instructions and attach the files. We'll see whether your email account rejects the email owing to the attached JavaScript files (my Gmail account did, and Tobias had to upload the files and send links instead).
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Re: The Chalker Continental series

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PeteD wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 3:40 pmWe'll see whether your email account rejects the email owing to the attached JavaScript files
You can almost certainly avoid that by zipping them up and unzipping them on reception. Also helpful with not needing to manually click and save a bunch of files in a row.

(Also useful on this forum for uploading file types that the forum doesn't accept!)
dchalker
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Re: The Chalker Continental series

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PeteD wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 3:35 pm Sorry, I misread what you'd written. These images barely constitute maps, though. When I hear the term "world map", especially if the map, rather than the projection, is significant enough to be named, I expect more detail than just the outline of the continents, something more like this:
Nah, it's my bad, imprecise terminology. Point is, my paper is defining the Continental series as a distinct layout arrangement, however supplemented or implemented. I'd rather not name every member of the Chalker Continental series Chalker-this, Chalker-that. I just don't have another name for the stuff for now. So you're certainly entitled to design and name your own, or not, as you wish.

I was just realizing that a sensible arrangement might project the northern hemisphere above 60N (or maybe equator, idk) as some sort of elliptical, then cylindrical for the middle down to 60S, and finally use the Antarctic inset for the bottom... That might be my own personal Chalker Continental Map (within the Chalker Continental series), if the details work. (I'll name the others after the primary contributors or type or whatever.)

No email yet. Sorry, don't want to ask you to jump through hoops here, so please do not inconvenience yourself.
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Re: The Chalker Continental series

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dchalker wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 4:11 pm I'd rather not name every member of the Chalker Continental series Chalker-this, Chalker-that.
Then don't.
dchalker wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 4:11 pm I just don't have another name for the stuff for now.
All these projections already have names. If you want to name the application of this interruption scheme to a given projection, then I'd suggest something like "Denoyer's interruption scheme applied to the loximuthal projection". I'm not sure whether or not "scheme" is the best word.
dchalker wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 4:11 pm No email yet.
I'm not currently at my computer to attach the files. The links to the files in Tobias's original email no longer work.
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Re: The Chalker Continental series

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Milo wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 3:43 pm You can almost certainly avoid that by zipping them up and unzipping them on reception.
The files were zipped, and Gmail still rejected them, but perhaps dchalker's email provider is less strict.
dchalker
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Re: The Chalker Continental series

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PeteD wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 5:45 pm All these projections already have names. If you want to name the application of this interruption scheme to a given projection, then I'd suggest something like "Denoyer's interruption scheme applied to the loximuthal projection". I'm not sure whether or not "scheme" is the best word.
Option A: Call it "Denoyer's interruption scheme applied to the loximuthal projection"
Option B: Call it the Siemon-Tobler Continental Composite and define it as "Chalker-Denoyer's modification applied to the loximuthal projection" or "Denoyer's interruption applied to the loximuthal projection and shifted to center on the Antidiomedian Meridian"

Option A just gets wordy. The configuration needs a name apart from the name of its base. That name can be Chalker-base or it can be Base Continental Composite, or something else, but I can't say a mouthful every time I reference a layout.
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